The Brickadia Controversy - Post your issues here

DingoAnanas

Cardboard Its ok this place is made for it. Rothary and i tried to rant at the devs asking for explanations for like, 3 years more or less now, we faced a wall. This is an echochamber. Idk how it work in their head, but surely it need maintenance (heh). They prob wont unban you. Move on, or do what totoldile said. Sorry for that.

Queuenard

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There is a destructive and asocial psychological behavior present in internet communities and relates mostly to self-selection and echo chambers. The way certain internet communities and communication methods work has allowed these people to voraciously self-select the people with whom they talk and interact. Any person who poses a problem or inconvenience for these supposed communities, whether or not that person is right, wrong or acting in good faith, can be removed with a single click of the ban button. Most forum and messaging software also does not expose that a moderation action has even taken place, resulting in an ambiguous sense of normality to members of these communities. Moderators are free to play favorites or take action inconsistently because the community at-large is not normally made aware of these actions by design. Moderators count on their communities not being able to scrutinize their actions.

Of course this is prima facie contrary to how one might think the internet is supposed to work. You are supposed to be exposed to ideas you don’t like or ideas you haven’t even considered yet. The self-selected communities constrict the overton window and descend further and further into uniformity.

Discord fits neatly into this picture. You can delete posts without anyone else knowing. You can ban people and nobody will know. You even have an option to retroactively delete all of that person’s posts (/r/Art moment) and of course, nobody will know. External monitoring is also extremely difficult and third parties rarely do it in the first place, so the chances of it happening are even lower. There is also a point where you piss off your best people, some of whom are the ones to have the foresight and curiosity to externally monitor moderation, such that nobody would even bother anymore as they start thinking your community is worthless and not even worth the time. It’s a death spiral that briefly looks better in the middle than it did at the beginning because the checks and balances stopped functioning before the middle.

This forum breaks that a little. This forum is at or near position #1 on web searches for “brickadia moderation”. Everything we say here is picked up by search engines. That’s why they hate forums and especially ones they don’t control. Forums will also not usually retroactively delete posts if a person gets banned. The moderators have a better chance at being held accountable.

I certainly wish I could promise that a greener pasture is just around the corner but I can assure you that important and influential people are watching this kind of behavior and they (we?) know it’s awful.

zombie_striker

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I feel this post so much. I am Zombie_Striker on every account - Discord, Reddit, Minecraft, Steam, Blockland, Brickadia, ect….. because that is me. I have a friend, who also is attached to his username, and because he annoyed a right-wing Unturned group/youtuber, he was labeled a pedophile and an online hate campaign started that ruined his online image. Depending on who you ask, most people will only know him for a "dossier" that shows he is a furry, support trans people, asked questions about plural people, and had a relationship with at 16 yo *when he was 16.
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He had to create an entirely new username because of it, and because I started to get dragged down because of it, I also then either had to choose to stay with my username and potentially be called a "pedophile supporter/enabler", or swap my usernames entirely. I ultimately chose to keep my username because it was that special to me - it is me - so I truly understand this feeling.

I also know that they probably won't back down unless they are shown how fucking dumb the moderation ruling is (Remember when they banned trans flags because you couldn't create the nazi flags on a historically accurate WW2 server?). Unless you can muster enough people on the outside, or muster enough support from people on the inside who are also disgrunted/supportive, you're not gonna get far - which is to say you must gather support. This is not an easy fight, and it really should not have to be a fight, but it has to be.

I'm not banned by them (yet… I'm doubtful my critiques here will be looked upon favorably either), so I would like to support you if I can, and I also want to keep playing as well. I will probably start doing youtube videos again, try to gain popularity within the brickadia community again, and keep myself in good spirits while I do good work. I also know the EOL relays still exist, and IDK if the ban prevents users from using EOL servers in general, but I wish you the best in finding a way to do what is right.

Queuenard

zombie_striker Remember, the more entrenched you are the more they can threaten you because you have more to lose. They can cut off your access to the game even if the servers you're connecting to want you to play or you want to manually invite people. Personally I don't participate in any service that interferes with my ability to connect with others.

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zombie_striker thanks for the advice. and i'm sorry to hear that about your friend. i hope something can be done, i want action to be taken and i want people to fight for what's right.

zombie_striker

Queuenard
So, your statement is that the more entrenched and **important** I am to their survival/popularity, the more they can threaten me? Somehow, I imagine the opposite, where me having more leverage over them through popularity means I have more leverage to prevent them from attacking me - especially if I already have the following I do.

Yeah, they can take it away, and if they do…. I let people know, and they will either speak out (i mean normal, non sycophants) and either cause more outrage till I am returned, or create more damage threatening them not to do it again/hurting them if they do.

Note, this is about actual leverage in the case they do something stupid. However, I see the devs are atleast trying, and wish to give them the benefit of the doubt that they can grow in this regard, especially now that they're really trying to push out the next update for the next influx of players.

DingoAnanas

zombie_striker They could start by unbanning everyone from discord or stop banning them for "external factors"

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